The books are burning …

ElShaddai has tagged me with a new meme which seems appropriate for 1st April:

Books are scarce in the world. They are illegal in some provinces. They are not easily replaced if not impossible to replace if lost in many if not most circumstances. If you can replace a book or buy one it is usually through the black market at astronomical costs that you cannot afford. Yet you have been able to maintain one of the best collections in the world. If your entire library was about to burn up (think of the firefighters in Fahrenheit 451 invading your home) and you could only have one* book to take with you other than the bible, what would that be and why?

Simple Rules
Answer the question. Offer one quote that resonates with you. Tag five people whose response is of genuine interest to you and inform him or her that they have been tagged. Cheers!

*And it cannot be an entire series of something, that’s cheating.

Nathan Stitt has already chosen The Lord of the Rings. I shall cry “Foul!” about this because it is really three books bound together as one, and because I didn’t get the chance to choose it myself. Well, I could do, because the rules don’t say I can’t copy others’ good choices, and my edition is not the same as his but a cheap paperback. So I will try to be a bit more creative.

Let’s look at the scenario. It is not the “Desert Island Discs” one for which I might want to choose a big book which I could reread again and again as I waited, bored, for rescue. Anyway on the desert island I would also have the Bible and Shakespeare, and there is enough there to dispel boredom.

In the world of this meme there is unlikely to be boredom as I would surely be politically active trying to overthrow this repressive government – or in jail where I probably wouldn’t be allowed to take the book. And, as Doug suggested, the complete works of Shakespeare might also be disqualified as “an entire series of something”. (Would I be allowed only part of the complete works as a series which is not entire?)

So my choice would have to be something valuable, perhaps even irreplaceable, rather than something I would actually want to read all the time. That makes for a difficult choice. I might have to choose something like ӘРӘБ ВӘ ФАРС СӨЗЛӘРИ ЛҮҒӘТИ simply for its rarity, and its irreplaceability for my Bible translation work which could otherwise continue mostly with the texts in my computer, but as this is a monolingual dictionary in a language few of my readers will understand there is not much point in me providing a quote from it.

So where does this leave me? If I am to post tonight I will do so without actually naming a book or quoting anything. But I do just have time to tag a few people: the blogger formerly known as Lingamish; Suzanne McCarthy, who can’t choose KJV or a Latin Bible translation; Eddie Arthur, but I won’t let him choose his own dissertation; Henry Neufeld, and I suppose I shouldn’t let him take a book he publishes; and in honour of a post Confessions of a Jaded Reader which is on his RSS feed but no longer on his blog, Tim Chesterton. I hope they are all reading this blog and so will know that they have been tagged.

The Evil Zwingli Meme

I haven’t actually been tagged on this Evil Zwingli Meme:

1) Post something rude about Zwingli. (Outrageous slander especially welcome.)
2) Tag someone who is NOT Jim West.

But I have read about it from Doug at MetaCatholic and from Nick at Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth. Of course this meme will not multiply exponentially as memes are supposed to if only one person is tagged each time. So, since while Nick doesn’t tag me he does mention and quote me, I will take that as a substitute for a tag and make this a response to the meme.

This meme of course will make little sense to anyone who doesn’t know blogger Jim West, the blogosphere’s one man fan club for Zwingli, the Reformer who apparently started a revolution by watching someone eat sausage.

But that is not a rude enough thing to say about Zwingli. I could be rude in a serious way, relating to how he persecuted and put to death the first Anabaptists. But instead, to be simpler, I will just repeat what I originally posted as a comment on John Hobbins’ blog, which Nick just found again:

I’m sure Zwingli would have had Jim West burned at the stake for his attitude to Scripture, if he hadn’t first had him drowned for being a Baptist.

Of course I wouldn’t want anyone to misinterpret this as rudeness about Jim West rather than about Zwingli. I wouldn’t dream of being rude about any living person on this blog. Well, maybe not …

Meanwhile I tag Lingamish, who has been commenting on this and no doubt longing to be tagged despite hating memes, Esteban Vázquez because I know he can find something rude to say about Zwingli if he wants to, and Jim West, who I am sure will be entertaining if not rude. Since I am breaking the rules by taking up this meme without being tagged, I claim the right to break them even further by tagging more than one person and including Jim himself.

What punctuation mark am I?

I can’t resist these quizzes. I came to this one from the results at Eternal Echoes. It’s actually a rather silly one based on a very small number of questions. But the results are fairly close to the mark. I don’t have a history of excelling in leadership positions, but that is because for various mostly good reasons I haven’t actually been in many.


You Are a Colon


You are very orderly and fact driven.
You aren’t concerned much with theories or dreams… only what’s true or untrue.You are brilliant and incredibly learned. Anything you know is well researched. 

You like to make lists and sort through things step by step. You aren’t subject to whim or emotions.

Your friends see you as a constant source of knowledge and advice.

(But they are a little sick of you being right all of the time!)

You excel in: Leadership positions

You get along best with: The Semi-Colon

What Punctuation Mark Are You?

I am a moderate in hermeneutics

I was not surprised to find that in The Hermeneutics Quiz, which I found from a tip by Dave Warnock and (for those of you put off by long words like “hermeneutics”) is in fact a set of questions on how I interpret the Bible, I came out as a “moderate”, with a score of 55. This rather simplistic score conceals the fact that the majority of my points came from the last few questions which were mostly about the applicability today of Old Testament law. I took a more conservative position on the earlier questions about the Bible. I was also somewhat surprised that my more individualistic answers about how I interpret the Bible and follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit made my score a more conservative one. It seems to me that this quiz needs at least two or three dimensions, perhaps more, rather than trying to place people along a single conservative-liberal axis.

A Room with a View

Lingamish tagged me with this meme, and then in a comment dared to suggest that there are not many sunny days in England. In fact this month has been unusually sunny, and as I write the sun is shining through the window and in fact on to my computer screen. So I can offer this picture dsc00338_00.JPGof my desk with the view outside. I took this at about the same time yesterday, when my computer was not on (as I had just come in) but the sun was again shining on its screen. I had also temporarily taken down the net curtains so that the houses across the walkway are visible.

Given the trouble I got into from the one person (so far) who didn’t actually ignore the last set of tags I posted, this time I will refrain from tagging anyone.

Bible meme

Nick Norelli and Kevin Sam have both tagged me with a Bible meme. I wasn’t sure what to do about, and that is why I have delayed my response. But I will try to answer it in part, as I celebrate my 400th blog post (well, not quite, because WordPress counts some drafts which were never completed).

1. What translation of the Bible do you like best?

TNIV. It’s not ideal, but for my purposes it is the best single general purpose Bible. For 25 years before TNIV came out I used and liked NIV, but TNIV is a real improvement on NIV in the areas where it was weak: misleading gender language and reading the New Testament into the Old.

2. Old or New Testament?

What a choice? I am a New Testament believer, but in some ways I prefer the Old Testament.

3. Favorite Book of the Bible?

Difficult to say. If I have just one choice I will go for Isaiah.

4. Favorite Chapter?

Even more difficult, and especially because chapter divisions so often don’t match the boundaries of passages. In the Psalms they do, so I can safely go for Psalm 23.

5. Favorite Verse? (feel free to explain yourself if you have to)

John 3:16. This may sound hackneyed, but my reasons are implicit in my recent post on this verse.

6. Bible character you think you’re most like?

Again, I don’t really know. I would like to be most like Jesus. But sometimes I feel more like one of his very fallible disciples; perhaps someone else would like to suggest which of them.

7. One thing from the Bible that confuses you?

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matt. 11:12) I’ve heard this verse preached on and exegeted countless times and it has never made sense.

This was Nick’s answer to this question, and I can’t improve on it, except to put the quote in a modern version which is just as unclear.

8. Moses or Paul?

Definitely Paul.

9. A teaching from the Bible that you struggle with or don’t get?

Despite my attempt at confident answers to the comments on my previous post, the status and fate of Christians who continue in sin.

10. Coolest name in the Bible?

Zerubbabel.

Now tag five people.

Well, I can’t resist winding up John Hobbins again by tagging him. I don’t think Lingamish has done this one either, so I will pay him back for tagging me with The Room With A View, a meme which he seems to have invented as a way to show off how nice a life he is living in Africa. I would love to see Wayne Leman‘s answers if he can be tempted to join in here. Paul Trathen was so excited to be tagged the last time (when he tagged me, but for a meme I had already done) that I will tag him again. Finally, I will encourage Alastair Roberts to keep up the blogging he has recently returned to by tagging him as well.

PS For some reason this came up as post 402. The only reason I can think of for WordPress skipping 400 and 401 is that last night I upgraded to the latest version.

Another quiz: What is the Kingdom of God?

I just found this quiz entitled What is the Kingdom of God? As this subject interests me, I will put myself in a theological box, as they put it in the post where I found the link to this quiz, even though it is not Friday. So here are my results:

What is the Kingdom of God?
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You scored as The Kingdom as a counter-systemThis approach has been adopted by Anabaptist and similar groups who saw themselves as recapturing the essence of true Christianity in opposition to a “Christianised” society and an institutional church.

The Kingdom as a counter-system
92%
Kingdom as a Christianised Society
67%
The Kingdom as Earthly Utopia
50%
The Kingdom is mystical communion
42%
The Kingdom is a Future Hope
42%
The Kingdom as Institutional Church
33%
Inner spiritual experience
33%
The Kingdom as a political state
33%

Interesting to see that I came out with the Anabaptist position of a Christian counter-system, although I wasn’t consciously thinking on those lines. But, and this is one of the points which I had trouble explaining to John Hobbins in our discussions on pacifism, I don’t take this to the extreme of withdrawing from the world, and so some of my answers reflected my position that I should be seeking to bring the values of this counter-system into the wider society.

A meme points to peacemaking

Doug has tagged me with an interesting meme:

Pick up the nearest book of 123 pages or more. (No cheating!)
Find Page 123.
Find the first 5 sentences.
Post the next 3 sentences.
Tag 5 people.

Like Doug, I discounted the Bible on my desk, so I picked the first book that came to hand on my bookshelf. This happened to be “Studies in the Sermon on the Mount” by Martyn Lloyd-Jones. Here is what I found on p.123 – I have included the preceding sentence so that this makes sense:

Why are peacemakers blessed? The answer is that they are blessed because they are so absolutely unlike everybody else. The peacemakers are blessed because they are the people who stand out as being different from the rest of the world, and they are different because they are the children of God. In other words, I say, we are again plunged immediately into New Testament theology and doctrine.

Interesting comment in the light of my ongoing discussions with John Hobbins on pacifism, and most recently on peacemaking in Africa, issues on which John seems unwilling to be even a little bit “unlike everybody else”. So I will content myself with tagging John on this one.

Which Winnie-the-Pooh character am I?

I found a quiz on Facebook (thanks to my friend Emily) Which Winnie-the-Pooh character are you? My result came out as:

You are:

Winnie-the-Pooh
You are Winnie-the-Pooh, the slow but lovable bear. You love your friends and always make time to spend with them, especially if they share their snack with you.

Perhaps I got this result because a lot of my answers revolved around food!